Originally published here by blogger Commandments of Men. Please remember that while the contributors to this website are united in our belief that there are problems with the teachings of Vision Forum, we come from a variety of diverse perspectives.

Umm, watch this if you can stand it…

Now, provided you didn’t lose your lunch, and provided you’ve finished taking the mental and physical shower this most likely made you crave (I’d caution against attempting to scrub the eyeballs, no matter how strong the desire), is there anyone out there who’d like to argue with me that Vision Forum isn’t a full-blown cult, with all of the assorted creepiness and weirdness of a full-blown cult?

How many expressions and adjectives could be applied here? The first that comes to mind is…

Ewwwwwwwwwww. (“Yuuuuuuck” is a close second)

Then, there’s perverted, bizarre, and a host of others. Tea parties? Really? Even with the older girls? And the picnic lunches on the blankets look weird and contrived. To be honest, everything about the whole deal looks weird and contrived. But it reaches a whole other level of creepiness when the daughters start shaving their dads. I have to wonder what wonderful, bonding nuggets would await us in a Mother/Son retreat. Sons shaving their mother’s legs? It’s no less creepy than this.

From where I sit, it seems to me that a daughter even desiring to go to this thing would serve as proof of very effective brainwashing and indoctrination. I’d think that only a young woman who has been ultra-sheltered and emotionally/informationally/doctrinally isolated could see anything appealing about attending this. Of course, in the patriarchal paradigm, if daddy says “Let’s go” it isn’t like the poor girl would have a choice but to “stay sweet”, submissive, and act more than happy to go.

My message to those who may be considering attending…

WAKE UP!!! You’re being brainwashed and grifted by these people while they’re cleaning up at the bank!!! $625 dollars for dad and one daughter, and $205 for each additional female blessing – along with over $100 per night in taxes. Is it really worth this much to learn from Phillips, Botkin, and the rest how to be a manly-man of a father, pose for pictures as a manly-man should – as if you have an ongoing, festering bout with jock-itch, and just generally creep the rest of us out?

I mean, rose petals? Chamber quartet music? Victorian-era fantasy? Sheesh. Check out this quote from the VF “ministries” site concerning the Daddy/Daughter retreat…

“His most sacred duty is her protection and preservation from childhood to virtuous womanhood. He leads her, woos her, and wins her with a tenderness and affection unique to the bonds of father and daughter.”

Oh, but there’s more…

“She, in turn, looks to her father as a loving picture of leadership, of devotion, and of care. Her relationship with her father will help to define her view of the worth of a woman, the meaning of fulfillment and contentment, and her vision for virtue. When these relationships are realized and cultivated, the generational mission of the Christian family is secure.

Is it any wonder that Satan is on the prowl seeking to tear the hearts of daughters from their fathers, and driving wedges of indifference between them — fathers with no time for their little girls, and young ladies who have replaced the love of their fathers with the acceptance of peers and inappropriate romantic relationships?”

ETA: This whole thing IS an inappropriate romantic relationship!

Ugggh. Perverse. I’m telling ya, people, this crowd isn’t very far at all from cyanide capsules and motherships (although they may prefer the mothership be submissive).

If you think the VF crowd isn’t a cult, you desperately need to wake up.